Dim not DAM

I knew this would happen. One day John Nack links to a misguided extract "Setting up an organizational system in Lightroom" from Rob Sheppard's fine book on Lightroom (apart from anything else, I'm glad to see it has Windows screenshots). A day or two later and it's popping up in an O'Reilly blog post to advocate the same silly advice - using your folder structure to categorize your images. Cue a predictable Beardsworth rant....

So what happens when a photo fits two categories? Do you put one copy in each folder? Or add more subfolders? Or say a country gains independence, as one has this weekend, or a location changes name, officially or because you got the place name wrong and those shots were actually taken over the state line? Go back and update your folder names, or just rely on memory that Bombay was Mumbai, or remember some Utah trip shots were taken over in Arizona? Or let's say you discover that some of those green necked parrots were actually of a particular species, while other shots showed a subspecies. A critical point for parrot lovers, no doubt. Add new subfolders and move the pictures? How many times and in how many locations did you photograph them? So how many subfolders does that mean updating? And what if you decide those shots were really landscapes rather than of birdies? I know I'm putting this forcefully, but these changes of how you see and find images do happen, and often.

Folders should be set up only to make the best use of storage space, to look after the physical security of your work, make sure you don't lose or duplicate anything, and to make it easy to restore after a crash or migrate (a nightmare when you have meaningful hierarchies). You have keywords and other metadata for finding images. Spend time adding those, not on too clever folder structures. Folder-based organization is dim not DAM.

 

 

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Keep ranting! Great thoughts..

Posted by: Rick Warburton on Feb 18, 08 | 4:48 pm



Hi John,

You do have a way with DAM terminology! May I appropriate DIM th next time someone agues a folder structure is sufficient for DAM? A well known RAW conversion software company were the last ones.

-- Robert.

Posted by: Robert on Feb 20, 08 | 9:15 am



Or you could try "Dumb not DAM", or because it always goes wrong what about talking about "Dim Dumb Damn!" folder structures?

Posted by: John on Feb 20, 08 | 11:55 am



Perhaps a reread of the article would be a good idea. It is just a fluff discussion about organization - I did not see anywhere in the article where Rob suggests "just" using folder names to find images - he talks about categories, which can then be used by collections, folder names and keywords to organize.

I suppose he should have pointed out the need for a disciplined folder naming approach and that the folder names, by themselves, would have to be supplemented with keywording.

Posted by: Rory on Feb 23, 08 | 5:50 pm



Interesting how Dam was first chosen and sounds provocative and then John's article here opposes it to DIM which is humorous. Dumb, I thought of since it sounded to me to be the beignning of a declinationin Latin set like Dim,Dam Dumb and so forth.

So I started a thread "Dumb or Dam" http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5025 where there has been some lively discussion. It looks as if people do transgress and use a hybrid of keyword and file hierarchy in their DAM.

Maybe it's DIM or Dumb but it's still DAM.

I appreciate that you write about it and set out your point of view.

Asher



Posted by: Asher Kelman on Feb 25, 08 | 7:06 am



Hi Asher - so, to coin another word, there's been a bit of "damstorming" at OPF.

Posted by: John on Feb 25, 08 | 7:59 am



We need to be prepared to yell when the Emperor has no clothes or even when they are just shabby. Right now, DAM is still in it's infancy, but we're learning on the job.

There are needs for more fluid exchange between programs. For example, having to use an ingester program before something like Lightroom or Lightzone is burdensome.

Eventually software will become aware of what we value and will be able to key word , file and backup accordingly making use of resources without our interevention. That, however, is not now nor even tommorow.

Posted by: Asher Kelman on Feb 25, 08 | 10:13 am



How is Microsoft handling new versions of ivew?

Posted by: Asher Kelman on Feb 28, 08 | 12:56 am



 

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